. . . or Learning about Islam and Jews, version 2576
. . . or Why the Jews were so easily wiped out by Hitler
. . . or are Jews in the shadow of another Holocaust?
(Ahmadinejad promises one--at least off and on [sometimes he only wants to do the "Zionists" in, other times, it's all the Jews in the World]).
It is not necessary for Jews to become Conservative, not even to leave their Liberal ideas behind. What is needed though is that Jews wise up to who hates them the most in the world at any particular time and is determined to kill as many, if not every one, of them as possible.
At The Lion of Judah site, PRCalDude, a Christian, posted under title Why the Jews were so easily wiped out by Hitler, in discussing the Tyson Foods' adopting a Muslim holiday, and Somali Muslim immigration rapidly transforming Shelbyville, Arkansas, into a disaster area (see Robert Spencer). "The RWDU, the union that voted in favor of Muslims being allowed to take off for Eid, is run by a guy named Stuart Appelbaum." PRCalDude knowing that Stuart Appelbaum was the President of the Jewish Labor Committe, assumed rightly that the man was Jewish.
To those who objected to Tyson Foods letting itself be bullied by Moslems and substituting Eid mubarak as a day off instead of the American customary holiday of Labor Day, Stuart Appelbaum, asserted: "There’s no question . . . that there is a lot of bigotry against Muslims and that this agreement has clearly touched a raw nerve among those who are prejudiced against them. However, the RWDSU has always understood that unions are only strong when they work to protect the dignity of workers of all faiths. That includes Muslims. Our union may be the first to negotiate this kind of agreement, but I have no doubt that others will follow our lead."
PRCalDude, a Christian, said that this is pretty typical of liberal Jewish moral confusion about many topics, the most obvious of which is Islam in this case.
PRCalDude then goes on to say, "Consider the Qur'an's view of Jews, outlined on a Sunni message board:" [and reproduces the material on the message board as follows]
Dear Sheikh! As-Salam 'Alaykum. What, according to the Qur'an, are the main characteristics and qualities of Jews?
Answer: [...]
As regards the question you posed, the following is the fatwa issued by Sheikh 'Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, in which he states the following:
"The Qur'an has specified a considerable deal of its verses to talking about Jews, their personal qualities and characteristics. The Qur'anic description of Jews is quite impartial; praising them in some occasions where they deserve praise and condemning them in other occasions where they practice blameworthy acts.
Yet, the latter occasions outnumbered the former, due to their bad qualities and the heinous acts they used to commit.
The Qur'an praises them on the verse that reads: "And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favored them above (all) peoples." (Al-Jathiyah:16) i.e. the peoples of their time.
Among the bad qualities they were characterized with are the following:
1. They used to fabricate things and falsely ascribe them to Allah. Allah Almighty says: " That is because they say: We have no duty to the Gentiles. They speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly." (Al-'Imran:75) Also: "The Jews say: Allah's hand is fettered.
Their hands are fettered and they are accursed for saying so. Nay, but both His hands are spread out wide in bounty. He bestoweth as He will." (Al-Ma'idah:64)
In another verse Almighty Allah says: "Verily Allah heard the saying of those who said, (when asked for contributions to the war): 'Allah, forsooth, is poor, and we are rich! We shall record their saying with their slaying of the Prophets wrongfully and We shall say: Taste ye the punishment of burning!'" (Al-'Imran:181)
2. They love to listen to lies. Concerning this Allah says: "and of the Jews: listeners for the sake of falsehood, listeners on behalf of other folk" (Al-Ma'idah: 41)
3. Disobeying Almighty Allah and never observing His commands. Allah says: "And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts." (Al-Ma'idah: 13)
4. Disputing and quarreling. This is clear in the verse that reads: "Their Prophet said unto them: Lo! Allah hath raised up Saul to be a king for you. They said: How can he have kingdom over us when we are more deserving of the kingdom than he is, since he hath not been given wealth enough?" (Al-Baqarah: 247)
5. Hiding the truth and standing for misleading. This can be understood from the verse that reads: "distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture." (Al-'Imran: 78)
6. Staging rebellion against the Prophets and rejecting their guidance. This is clear in the verse: "And when ye said: O Moses! We will not believe in thee till we see Allah plainly." (Al-Baqarah: 55)
7. Hypocrisy. In a verse, we read: "And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe; but when they go apart to their devils they declare: Lo! we are with you; verily we did but mock." (Al-Baqarah: 14) In another verse, we read: "Enjoin ye righteousness upon mankind while ye yourselves forget (to practice it)? And ye are readers of the Scripture! Have ye then no sense?" (Al-Baqarah: 44)
8. Giving preference to their own interests over the rulings of religion and the dictates of truth. Allah says: "when there cometh unto you a messenger (from Allah) with that which ye yourselves desire not, ye grow arrogant, and some ye disbelieve and some ye slay?" (Al-Baqarah: 87)
9. Wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them. This is clear in the verse that reads: "Many of the People of the Scripture long to make you disbelievers after your belief, through envy on their own account, after the truth hath become manifest unto them." (Al-Baqarah: 109)
10. They feel pain to see others in happiness and are gleeful when others are afflicted with a calamity. This is clear in the verse that reads: "If a lucky chance befall you, it is evil unto them, and if disaster strike you they rejoice thereat." (Al-'Imran:120)
11. They are known of their arrogance and haughtiness. They claimed to be the sons and of Allah and His beloved ones. Allah tells us about this in the verse that reads: "The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah and His loved ones." (Al-Ma'idah: 18)
12. Utilitarianism and opportunism are among their innate traits. This is clear in the verse that reads: "And of their taking usury when they were forbidden it, and of their devouring people's wealth by false pretences." (An-Nisa': 161)
13. Their impoliteness and indecent way of speech is beyond description. Referring to this, the Qur'anic verse reads: "Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: 'We hear and disobey; hear thou as one who heareth not' and 'Listen to us!' distorting with their tongues and slandering religion.
If they had said: 'We hear and we obey; hear thou, and look at us' it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few." (An-Nisa':46)
14. It is easy for them to slay people and kill innocents. Nothing in the world is dear to their hearts than shedding blood and murdering human beings. They never give up this trait even with the Messengers and the Prophets. Allah says: "and slew the prophets wrongfully." (Al-Baqarah: 61)
15. They are merciless and heartless. In this meaning, the Qur'anic verse explains: "Then, even after that, your hearts were hardened and became as rocks, or worse than rocks, for hardness." (Al-Baqarah: 74)
16. They never keep their promises or fulfill their words. Almighty Allah says: "Is it ever so that when ye make a covenant a party of you set it aside? The truth is, most of them believe not." (Al-Baqarah: 100)
17. They rush hurriedly to sins and compete in transgression. Allah says: "They restrained not one another from the wickedness they did. Verily evil was that they used to do!" (Al-MA'idah:79)
18. Cowardice and their love for this worldly life are their undisputable traits. To this, the Qur'an refers when saying: "Ye are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah. That is because they are a folk who understand not. They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified villages or from behind walls.
Their adversity among themselves is very great. Ye think of them as a whole whereas their hearts are divers." (Al-Hashr:13-14) Allah Almighty also says: "And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters." (Al-Baqarah:96)
19. Miserliness runs deep in their hearts. Describing this, the Qur'an states: "Or have they even a share in the Sovereignty? Then in that case, they would not give mankind even the speck on a date stone." (An-Nisa':53)
20. Distorting Divine Revelation and Allah's Sacred Books. Allah says in this regard: "Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands anthem say, 'This is from Allah,' that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby." (Al-Baqara: 79)
After this clear explanation, we would like to note that these are but some of the most famous traits of the Jews as described in the Qur'an. They have revolted against the Divine ordinances, distorted what has been revealed to them and invented new teachings which, they claimed, were much more better than what has been recorded in the Torah. It was for these traits that they found no warm reception in all countries where they tried to reside.
Rather, they would either be driven out or live in isolation. It was Almighty Allah who placed on them His Wrath and made them den of humiliation due to their transgression. Almighty Allah told us that He'd send to them people who'd pour on them rain of severe punishment that would last till the Day of Resurrection. All this gives us glad tidings of the coming victory of Muslims over them once Muslims stick to strong faith and belief in Allah and adopt the modern means of technology."
PRCalDude comments: "So the Qur'an treats the Jews just like Mein Kampf does. Notice how the sheikh quotes at length from the Qur'an in answering his reader's question? It's almost as if Muslims take the things in the Qur'an seriously?!?! I posted the Muslim understanding of Jews on T-Nation and got the following response from a Jew who posts there:"
"A religion hating on a different religion?
"Profound and original, I must say.
"And what does the Bible tell us about pagan nature worshipers? Was it to stone them or burn them? I can't quite remember...
"Oh wait, right, this thread is about Jews and Muslims. I'm not aloud to talk about Christianity. So, what does the old testament say about heretics? I'm sure they have quite the glowing record.
"oh and: Sheikh! As-Salam 'Alaykum.- who the hell is he? Qualifications? Status? Ability to speak for how many Muslims? ect"
PRCalDude then goes on to say:
[quoting PRCalDude]
" . . . I have several Jewish colleagues, and I've heard them make similar statements, to the effect of, 'All religions can be twisted to promote violence!' Abraham Foxman, director of the ADL, continues to worry about antisemitism resulting from Mel Gibson's 'Passion' flick and the recent ruling in the PCUSA regarding the Palestinians rather than all of the rank Islamic antisemitism he's presented with and what's contained in the Qur'an. More than that, he continues to promote immigration. Gee, isn't immigration bringing all of these antisemites into the country in the first place?"
"With all the liberal Jewish moral equivalence about Christianity and Islam being equally problematic, it's not hard to see how they might have been morally confused by a guy named Hitler, because Mohammed and Hitler are pretty much the same guy. Both had a paranoid obsession with Jews, both wrote at length about it. Mohammed wiped out an entire Jewish tribe, beheading 600 men and raping the remaining women and giving them to his men as spoils. Nevertheless, the Jews just gave up their guns when Hitler came to power and didn't really recognize what was happening until it was too late. The same thing is happening now with the Muslims, and they're doing the same thing."
"Never again? Probably not."
Update on Thursday, August 7, 2008 at 02:38PM by PRCalDude
Oh, and boycott Tyson foods.
[close quote by PRCalDude]
Selected Comments to PRCalDude's post:
The old axiom - When a Jew makes a fist in anger, he uses it to beat his own chest.The longest day I live I will never understand the Jewish/Israeli mindset of bending over and grabbing the ankles at everything the muslim/"palestinians" want.WWII never understand the pictures showing two Nazis each with a 5 shot bolt action rifle guarding 500 Jews who know they are about to die. I want to see them rise up like warriors of the OT and smite the living dog-snot out of their enemies.
August 7, 2008 SameNoKami
Me too. Hopefully, calling it what it is will help them do so.
We read in the OT about David's mighty men slaughtering 50 men with a jawbone and stuff like that. They can't do that worrying about whether the Baptist next door is just as bad as the Muslim down the street or whether Mel Gibson will incite us all to riot against the Jews.
They have their own watchdog groups with money and influence, for crying out loud. Look at how guys like Appelbaum use that influence: for naught.
August 7, 2008 PRCalDude
[I believe that it was Sampson who used the jawbone of an ass, but I agree with PRCalDude. lw]
Right-thinking Jews like Dennis Prager have publicly marvelled at the self-destructiveness which seems to be so prevalent among Jews. It has always seemed to me that Satan tries much harder to decieve Jews and Christians than he does any other groups...the reasons for that are obvious, are they not!
August 8, 2008 Toa
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